Judge: Laura A. Seigle, Case: 21STCV23802, Date: 2022-08-29 Tentative Ruling



Case Number: 21STCV23802    Hearing Date: August 29, 2022    Dept: 15

[TENTATIVE] ORDER RE MOTIONS IN LIMINE

Plaintiffs’ MIL No. 1

            No motion was filed.

Plaintiffs’ MIL No. 2

            Plaintiffs move to exclude evidence that the FDA has determined cosmetic talc does not contain asbestos and is safe on the grounds that no such evidence exists.  If there is no such evidence, then there is nothing to exclude.  If a party in opening refers to evidence that does not exist, the other side can point out to the jury that the party promised to show the jury evidence on an issue and then failed to fulfill that promise at trial.  Otherwise this is too vague.

            More specifically, Plaintiffs are concerned about a FDA survey in 2009-2010, which Plaintiffs contend is irrelevant because the survey addressed talc from different mines than the talc at issue here.  This survey may be the type of material experts rely on.  If an expert is relying on this survey, Plaintiffs can cross-examine the expert about the source of the talc and argue to the jury that it should not give the document any weight.  If a party seeks to admit the actual survey, Plaintiffs can object at that time.

            Plaintiffs argue that statements by the FDA are hearsay and lack foundation.  This is too vague.  depending on how the statements are used, they may not be hearsay or could fall within exceptions to the hearsay rule.  Plaintiffs should object at trial if another party tries to admit evidence that lacks foundation or is hearsay without an exception.

            The motion is denied without prejudice to objections at trial.

Plaintiffs’ MIL No. 3

            Plaintiffs move to exclude evidence about regulatory agencies’ workplace asbestos exposure limits as irrelevant and misleading.  This is the type of material an expert may rely on, and it may be admissible if an expert proves it is the type of information relied upon by experts in the field.  If an expert relies on workplace exposure limits, the other parties can cross-examine the expert about the difference between workplace exposure and cosmetic use and argue the jury should give the exposure limits no weight.

            The motion is denied without prejudice to objections at trial.

Plaintiffs’ MIL No. 4

            No motion was filed.

Plaintiffs’ MIL No. 5

            No motion was filed.

Plaintiffs’ MIL No. 6

            Plaintiffs seek to exclude evidence of a procedure called talc pleurodesis as not relevant to causation and irrelevant, prejudicial, and confusing to the jury.  If Plaintiff had this procedure, the motion is denied.  If Plaintiff did not have this procedure, the motion is granted as the evidence would require an undue amount of trial time and confusing medical evidence explaining the purposes of the procedure and when and how it is used.

Plaintiffs’ MIL No. 7

            No motion was filed.

Plaintiffs’ MIL No. 8

            No motion was filed.

Plaintiffs’ MIL No. 9

            No motion was filed.

Plaintiffs’ MIL No. 10

            No motion was filed.

Plaintiffs’ MIL No. 11

            Plaintiffs move to preclude Chanel from arguing it relied on talc suppliers for its asbestos analysis on the ground this argument is unsupported by the evidence and is based on speculation.  This is too vague.  If a witness is asked a question calling for speculation or without foundation, Plaintiffs should object at that time.

            Plaintiffs argue various documents are hearsay.  This is too vague.  Documents can be used for various non-hearsay purposes or there could be an exception.  If at trial a party seeks to admit documents containing hearsay for which there is no exception, the other party should object at that time.

            Plaintiffs argue the reliance evidence is more prejudicial than probative.  This is too vague.  There is no specific evidence identified.

            The motion is denied without prejudice to an objection at trial.

Plaintiffs’ MIL No. 12

            The motion seeks to exclude evidence about the founding of Chanel and other Chanel products as irrelevant and prejudicial.  This motion is too vague.  Some background information about Chanel is permissible, just as Plaintiffs are likely to spend some time introducing themselves.  If Chanel is spending too much time on its history, Plaintiffs can object at trial.

            The motion is denied without prejudice to objections at trial.

Defendants’ MIL No. 1

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 2

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 3

            Defendants seek to exclude references to Coco Chanel’s personal affiliations during World War II and her personal life.  This is too vague.  Also, if Chanel plans to tell the story about Coco Chanel’s personal life beyond her founding of the company, Plaintiffs should have the opportunity to ask questions about her personal life.  If Chanel does not introduce evidence about Coco Chanel’s personal life, then this line of questioning is irrelevant.

            The motion is denied without prejudice to objections at trial.

Defendants’ MIL No. 4

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 5

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 6

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 7

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 8

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 9

            Defendants seek to exclude evidence about the IWGACP formed in 2018 and its recommendations and papers in 2020 and 2021 as irrelevant, misleading, and hearsay.  If an expert establishes that this is the type of background information relied upon by experts, the evidence may be relevant and may be admissible even if hearsay.  Defendant can then cross-examine the expert on the fact that the work is only preliminary.

            The motion is denied without prejudice to objections at trial.

Defendants’ MIL No. 10

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 11

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 12

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 13

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 14

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 15

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 16

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 17

            Defendants move to exclude all evidence of experiments and simulations about the use of talcum powder products as not similar enough to the facts of this case and not based on generally accepted scientific methods.  This motion is too vague, does not identify any particular experiment or simulation, and does not specify the opinions to be excluded. 

            The motion is denied without prejudice to objections at trial.

Defendants’ MIL No. 18

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 19

            No motion was filed.

Defendants’ MIL No. 20

            Defendants seek to exclude non-expert witness from testifying about the asbestos content in any product.  Pursuant to the July 8, 2022 CMO, this motion is deemed made and denied without prejudice to a contemporaneous objection at trial.  Defendants did not show good cause to depart from this order. 

            Therefore, this motion is denied without prejudice to a contemporaneous objection at trial. 

Defendants’ MIL No. 21

            This motion seeks to preclude evidence about a post-sale duty to warn.  Pursuant to the July 8, 2022 CMO, this motion is deemed made and denied without prejudice to a contemporaneous objection at trial.  Defendants did not show good cause to depart from this order. 

            Therefore, this motion is denied without prejudice to a contemporaneous objection at trial. 

Defendants’ MIL No. 22

            Defendants move to exclude references to Defendants with derogatory terms as “criminals,” “liars,” “cheats” and “frauds.”  This motion is too vague.  For example, if a defense witness testifies contrary to the witness’s prior testimony, that may show the defense witness is not truthful.  Plaintiffs have the right to try to impeach the witness ans show the witness has changed his or her testimony.  In addition, Plaintiffs alleged fraud causes of action and seek punitive damages, which require proving Defendants acted with fraud, malice or oppression.

            The motion is denied without prejudice to objections at trial.

Defendants’ MIL No. 23

            Defendants move to exclude references to products made by Defendant Caswell-Massey’s predecessor before 2007 because Caswell-Massey is not liable for any products made before 2007.  Whether Caswell-Massey assumed the pre-2007 liabilities of its predecessor is not something that can be decided on a motion in limine.  Caswell-Massey can argue and present evidence at trial that it did not assume any such liabilities.

            The motion is denied without prejudice to objections at trial.

Defendants’ MIL No. 24

            This motion seeks to exclude all evidence about talc mines and products if Plaintiffs cannot prove the talc was used in any products Plaintiffs used.  This motion is too vague.  It does not identify any specific evidence or opinion to be excluded.  Also, evidence about talc in other products and from other mines could be the type of evidence relied on by experts.  The experts can be cross-examined about that reliance, and that they relied on such information goes to the weight to be given their opinions.

            The motion is denied without prejudice to objections at trial.

Defendants’ MIL No. 25

            Defendants move to exclude evidence of reports from the CTFA in 1973 as irrelevant because Bristol-Myers Squibb did not exist then and as unduly prejudicial and confusing.  This is the type of evidence an expert might rely upon, and it could be relevant to notice and knowledge more broadly.

            The motion is denied without prejudice to objections at trial.

Defendants’ MIL No. 26

            This motion seeks to exclude argument that the knowledge of the trade organization CTFA/PCPC should be imputed to Defendants.  Pursuant to the July 8, 2022 CMO, this motion is deemed made and denied without prejudice to a contemporaneous objection at trial.  Defendants did not show good cause to depart from this order. 

            Therefore, this motion is denied without prejudice to a contemporaneous objection at trial. 

The moving party is to give notice.